IFOCE Fall 2010 rankings released
The new IFOCE rankings are out now. The only change in the top 10 is swapping the positions of Pat Bertoletti (now #2) and Bob Shoudt (now #3)
Newly Ranked: Brian Dudzinski (#23), Aaron Osthoff (#31), David Solomon (#32), Gary Klucken (#33), Kobi Bauer (#36), Larell Marie Mele (#38), Steve Martin (#50)
Dropping Out: Arturo Rios Jr. (formerly #32), Erik Unger (#35), Anthony Reganato (#36), Jon Lapolla (#42), Steve Ramirez (#45), Damon Serignet (#48), Richard Foley (#50)
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SPBBBBMBBBarlow said
October 22, 2010 @ 6:06 pm
How dare they steal some of my rankings thunder!! Glad I survived!!
Anonymous said
October 22, 2010 @ 7:57 pm
youve got to be kiddin me….dud light in the top 25
Newly Ranked said
October 22, 2010 @ 7:59 pm
How is it that Dudzinski is #23 and he hardly has done anything at all… I mean as far as I know he only participated in 2 Nathans qualifiers and didn’t win… Does Nathans hold that much weight when it comes to the rankings?
KevinRoss said
October 22, 2010 @ 8:07 pm
As usual, I’m grossly under-ranked. . .though probably because Nathan’s holds so much weight and I suck at hot dogs. . .plus I don’t really do that many contests anymore. . .still 30 seems rather low to me based on my performance for the contests I have done recently. Oh well, maybe I’ll buffet away the pain LOL.
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 22, 2010 @ 8:36 pm
@Newly ranked – Perhaps because he debuted at an amazing 20 HDBs in Atlantic City; did very well at clams 2 and then ate 21 HDBs at very next contest. Plus, even tho not IFOCE contests, was killn challenges all Summer? I think this kid is going places in the CE world!!! @Kevin – 30 is gr8!!! Congrats and enjoy the buffet 🙂
Newly Ranked said
October 22, 2010 @ 8:40 pm
@Larell – I’m not doubting the kid has some real talent… 20 & 21 HDB’s is pretty respectable but with only 3 contests in it just doesn’t seen he has enough history or clout to warrant a Top-25 ranking. Non-IFOCE contests and/or challenges shouldn’t count for anything in an IFOCE ranking.
beautifulbrian said
October 23, 2010 @ 12:22 am
Dudlight is my boy great eater deserves
the debut at 23 because he has unlimited potential you haven’t seen yet plus he owns the name Brian so how can he possibly go wrong?
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 23, 2010 @ 7:42 am
BB – lol – thx for clearing up that last part 🙂
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 23, 2010 @ 7:44 am
@Newly Ranked – just figured that’s how come he was ranked that high as a brand-new eater. Hv u ever seen him eat? Lol – the kid is amazing ! 🙂 Yeah, the non-IFOCE was just a guess cuz I know he’s been demolishing records in that aspect as well.
Lolly Manhands said
October 24, 2010 @ 3:09 pm
They say it’s not what you know but who you know but actually it’s not who you know but who you blow.
Damon Wells said
October 25, 2010 @ 10:09 am
Newly Ranked said
October 22, 2010 @ 7:59 pm
How is it that Dudzinski is #23 and he hardly has done anything at all… I mean as far as I know he only participated in 2 Nathans qualifiers and didn’t win… Does Nathans hold that much weight when it comes to the rankings?
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I can’t explain it either, I’ve competed with the IFOCE for over a year, I ate 1 hot dog more then Dud light in my 2 qualifiers and haven’t competed in a AYCE contest. I can’t explain it and I’m a little pissed to be quite honest with you.
Looking at the rankings it looked like 10-30 they didn’t make much changes at all to the veterin eaters, they bumped up Adrian which is well deserved, added Dud and bumped up Brian Beard, everybody else kinda remained the same.
Congrats to all the new comers, but the IFOCE really mailed it in with the 10-30 ranked guys.
Damon Wells said
October 25, 2010 @ 10:15 am
pissed that I’m ranked 6 spots under a Dud, not pissed that he’s ranked. He looks to be a good eater it would just make sense that he wouldn’t be ranked higher then a vet who has competed more then him and ate more hot dogs then him.
Anony Mouseketeer said
October 25, 2010 @ 11:54 am
If the rankings are Nathan’s heavy, in addition to Damon’s complaints and Sean Brockert’s 10 count performance, here are a few more phoned-in rankings:
Gary Klucken – 12 HDBs
The Bauers didn’t even compete in a Nathan’s qualifier.
Damien Boykin (11 HDBs) beat Brian Seiken (no Nathan’s this year) head-to-head in two outings, and ends up below him?
As Damon also noted, three or four or less contests does not a high ranking make. Sean Brockert was ranked at 37 at first due to a third place showing at sweet corn, where two seasoned pros showed up. Same thing with Gary Klucken; 2nd place in oysters, because of a poor showing of higher ranked eaters. Marco Marquez makes one contest showing, and retains his #22 ranking? Hall Hunt, granted was working on his wedding, also one contest in 2010, remains #8. Kobi Bauer has two contests.
One wonders how many of these noobs had contracts laid in front of them after their one stellar showing.
Anonymous said
October 25, 2010 @ 12:01 pm
Why is Hall Hunt still in the top 10? Why is Pat Philbin still in the top 20 after not making Nathan’s? Why is Shredder not in the top 20 after making Nathan’s and doing quite well? Why is Russ Keeler still ranked after committing a “no-no.” The world may never know.
anonymous said
October 25, 2010 @ 12:22 pm
anony Mouse you make some valid points about Damon vs Seiken but Seiken also finished ahead of Bauer in ribs if you did your homework and Bauer is ranked ahead of him
anonymous said
October 25, 2010 @ 12:26 pm
why is Brian Subich ranked 28?
Damon Wells said
October 25, 2010 @ 12:51 pm
I think Hall is talented enough to remain in the top 10, as he did compete at least once and not retire, while it’s not deserved, I can see a justification. I can’t justify the following though
20 – Nate Biller (14.5 HDB’s)
22 – Marco Marquez (1 contest in 2010)
23 – Dud Light (20 & 21HDB’s only IFOCE contest, then does a AICE contest after)
24 – Russ Keeler (17.5HDB’s)
IFOCE expects you to remain loyal and abide by the rules, travel on your own dime, promote their association, yet they can’t take 4 or 5 hours to sit down once every 6 months to really give a good top 50 rankings list? That sucks!
I noticed the rankings changed again, Steve Martin is now 49 and Lapolla is back in at 50? who dropped?
Wrecking Ball said (Registered May 6, 2010)
October 25, 2010 @ 12:56 pm
The problem with all these rankings is most of the results from every contests are incomplete. For the sake of saving time on some events MLE will just rank the competitors in the money (ex. moonpies) but in other events they will list all the competitors with their totals (ex tamales). So without having complete and accurate information there is no true way to do a top 50 eaters except for either ranking it depending on money won or by just the opinions of an unbiased (I realize that is cause for argument as well) person or persons in charge of the sport which is MLE and exactly what they have done. I am not sure how I got brought into the conversation of people being upset at rankings though, I am currently ranked 40. Is there really that big of a problem at me being at 40 out of 50? In my defense, yes I had one 3rd place finish and yes I did eat 10 hot dogs but I also competed a lot more and was more active in MLE than most others, also I have and will never violate my membership agreement. Taking all that in what is the big deal if I am sitting at 40? I have created a Excel worksheet taking in all competitions and giving points depending on how the eaters finished (for example if ten people competed 10th place receives one point, ninth two etc…).Trust me I realize the many flaws in this system (not complete rankings, dosen’t give proper weight to events like Nathans, and dosent account for people like Hall who havent competed much this year because of reasons outside of eating but at least it is a system. If I could get all the complete finishes of every event that would help a little and would be easy enough for me to fix. I would also recommend giving last years top 50 a ballot sheet and allowing them to be part of choosing the top 50. I know that this would cause a lot of people to vote for their friends but it would only account for part of the total rankings not the entire thing. The previously mentiioned excel sheet is (and can’t be finished) until the end of 2010 but if anybody would like a copy please feel free to email me seanbrockert@yahoo.com and I have no problem sharing. Thanks!
Anony Mouseketeer said
October 25, 2010 @ 1:10 pm
Chris Abatsas was dropped. Anybody wonder now whether MLE reads this site now?
pssshh said
October 25, 2010 @ 1:31 pm
Dud light did an AICE contest and was awarded a 23rd ranking. Ifoce has no idea what they are doing.
Stallion Italian said (Registered August 27, 2010)
October 25, 2010 @ 1:44 pm
Think that Damon Wells makes the best overall point. “IFOCE expects you to remain loyal and abide by the rules, travel on your own dime, promote their association, yet they can’t take 4 or 5 hours to sit down once every 6 months to really give a good top 50 rankings list?.” The Chris Abatsas issue and information did not (necessarily) come from eatfeats, IMO, assuredly not. If they do not have time to spend making the rankings, you think they take the time to sift through this site? Good Grief Charlie Brown, not even close. Think that some other eaters drop info direct to MLE. Not nice but that is probable. MLE is busy setting up and making contests happen. That is their sphere.
Rhonda Evans said (Registered March 6, 2008)
October 25, 2010 @ 2:43 pm
I think the IFOCE is most concerned with the “validity” of the top 10 rankings, and overall I think they do an excellent job with that. Those guys are very, very good judges of talent, and I think Rich Shea is the best of the bunch in spotting rising stars.
Subsequently less and less time and concern is probably spent ranking eaters of lesser talent. I can’t say I blame the IFOCE for that. If true, that’s certainly incentive for lower ranked eaters to improve. If you don’t like where you’re ranked, send a message at a CE event by placing in front of eaters ranked higher than you.
I’m very impressed with Big Sexy (at 25 he’s about a half dozen spots too low), Dud Light, and Adrian Morgan. I’m also glad to see Larell Marie in there. She has a great attitude and lots of ambition, so she’s top 20 material.
I’m also rooting for Wrecking Ball; his wonderful atitude will take him far, both in and outside of CE.
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 25, 2010 @ 2:48 pm
Wrecking Ball – would be very interested in seeing your masterpiece 🙂 I can’t even imagine taking on that task lol. You still have my email address?
Mega Munch said
October 25, 2010 @ 3:06 pm
Nathan’s holds so much weight in the rankings because that’s pretty much the only contest the Shea’s look at when figuring out the new rankings. Looking at other contests would require require actual analysis and work and that’s not how they roll.
Rhonda Evans said (Registered March 6, 2008)
October 25, 2010 @ 3:41 pm
I’ve always felt HDBs consumption are a very good indicator of, and if you could choose but one food with which to rank eaters you won’t be too far off using HDBs. It would be an even better indicator if dunking wasn’t involved—-like Krystals in 2009.
Aside from that eaters today seem to be more specialized (i.e. with sweets you don’t mess with Pat and you don’t screw with Sonya in oysters or clams, [or crawfish unless you’re US Male and have counters who experiment with new math]).
🙂
Joey and Koby are pretty much in a class by themselves, with few exceptions (such as those mentioned above).
Anonymous said
October 25, 2010 @ 4:05 pm
Dud Light and Russ Keeler both beat Badlands in clams and finished 1 to 2 dozen under Eater X….and Dud Light’s extracurricular eating events never included an AICE sponsored event
Anony Mouseketeer said
October 25, 2010 @ 5:29 pm
Rhonda, if HDBs are the stick by which we should measured, here is everyone’s best performance this year from the EatFeats database:
54 Joey “Jaws” Chestnut
46 Tim “Eater X” Janus
40 “Notorious” Bob Shoudt
38.5 Eric “Badlands” Booker
37 Pat “Deep Dish” Bertoletti
36 Sonya “The Black Widow” Thomas
32 Erik “The Red” Denmark
31 Tim “Gravy” Brown
30 Sean “Flash” Gordon
29 “Big” Ben Monson
28.75 Allen “Shredder” Goldstein
28.25 Juliet “The Lovely” Lee
27 “Jammin” Joe LaRue
26.5 Pete “PrettyBoy” Davekos
25 “Buffalo” Jim Reeves
25 Adrian “The Rabbit” Morgan
25 Crazy Legs Conti
24.5 Pat “from Moonachie” Philbin
24 Micah “Wing Kong” Collins
22 Damon “The Omen” Wells
21 Brian “Dud Light” Dudzinski
20 Dave “U. S. Male” Goldstein
19 Ron Koch
18 “Big” Brian Subich
18 Kevin Ross
18 Bryan “Big Sexy” Beard
17.75 Ryan “Big Red” McKillop
17.5 Russ “The Black Hole” Keeler
17 Damon “Whos ur daddy” Serignet
17 Eric “Steakbellie” Livingston
15.25 Larell Marie “The Real Deal” Mele
15 “Hurricane” David Solomon
14.5 “Nasty” Nathan Biller
14 Joe “Big Boss” Tursi
14 Chris “The Gull” Hodges
13.5 William “Wild Bill” Myers
13 Kristopher Adams
13 Mark James
12.5 “El Toro” Jimenez
12.5 Yasir Salem
12 Gary Klucken
12 Andrew “The Bear” Kogutkiewicz
12 Andrew Bosque
12 Ken “The Evolution” Douglas
12 Matt Martorelli
11.75 Peter Ruiz
11.5 Richard Foley
11 Damien Boykin
10.5 Steve “Pi Guy” Martin
10.5 Andrew “The Irish Ironman” Kossuth
10.5 Ryan Reed
10 Paul “BoneBreaker” Barlow, Jr.
10 George “Garbage Gut” Glum
10 Billy Pingleton
10 Sean “Wrecking Ball” Brockert
10 Jeff “The Natural” Olson
10 Matt “Sweet Tooth” Cohen
10 Ken Glatt
9 Seth Chickering
9 Robert Leffler
8 Tawana Caldwell
8 Mike Sola
8 Rich Krusinski
8 Jesse “Eater J” Rifkin
7.5 David Nifoussi
7.5 “Bam Bam” Martinez
7 Todd Depole
7 Mike LeMay
7 Daithi O’Shea
6.5 Drew Altavilla
5 Andrew Fountaine
5 Tom Mackey
4.5 Jeremiah Layman
4 Andy Brake
DQ David “Tiger Wings” Brunelli
Anonymous said
October 25, 2010 @ 6:00 pm
I agree with Ronda. She didn’t say it was perfect, just that it is the best indicator if you could choose only one food. It looks fairly accurate overall. Since you’re already in the database doing research do that for every food type and compare them.
Damon Wells said
October 25, 2010 @ 6:07 pm
Anonymous said
October 25, 2010 @ 4:05 pm
and Dud Light’s extracurricular eating events never included an AICE sponsored event
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I stand corrected on the AICE sponsored event, he competed in 2 non IFOCE sanctioned events after he competed at his Nathan qualifiers, now if I know the IFOCE, after his first qualy, and he signed up for his second, they would have had him sign a contract. If he wasn’t under contract then okay, I won’t complain about the fact he did non IFOCE contests.
With all that said, I still have a bitter taste in my mouth that somebody who has only been in 2 ifoce contests and ate 1 less HDB respectively at each event is ranked 6 spots ahead of me. Not taking anything away from him in particular, breaking the 20 HDB in a debut is a great feat, just sayin, it doesn’t make sense. I have other complaints listed above. I think Shredder being ranked 21st is total BS considering he has the 11th highest total of HDB’s.
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 25, 2010 @ 9:11 pm
Rhonda – thank u and one day I hope to be!!! 🙂
anonymous said
October 26, 2010 @ 2:16 am
Damon welcome to the world of MLE politics. The rankings are not always forumlated by the book meaning that eaters stats from specific contests are not always a major priority in determining how an eater is ranked. If they like an eater and they feel he has potential they could care less what place you finished ahead of that eater in a contest . Basically what im saying is that unless you won the contest outright you really dont have a leg to stand on. Brian was ranked 23 because they feel he will move up instead of drop down. Its become common now aday for eaters to boast about finishing ahead of another eater so they can secure some kind of self worth when the rankings are revised. Sometimes MLE might use that criteria in deciding who should be ranked ahead of who but i think it only applies to top ten or maybe 15 at best
Anonymous said
October 26, 2010 @ 8:53 am
Anony 2:16 seems to know the deal. That’s pretty much how MLE operates. A few years back Arturo Rios and Seaver Miller were ranked 9 and 10 respectively, mainly because they showed promise.
Bronson Fan said
October 26, 2010 @ 10:14 am
Pat deserves to be #2!!!!
Anonymous said
October 26, 2010 @ 10:45 am
Pat is #2
anonymous said
October 26, 2010 @ 11:18 am
Not Damon fault because he is new to the sport. A reaction like that is common amongst new eaters. After some time he will accept it for what it is or decide its bullshit and move on somewhere else
Frank said
October 26, 2010 @ 2:04 pm
MLE owns the company and they can rate you the way they feel.We will not ever be apart of the rank decision.Thats just the way it is.You have to beat the best to be the best.After 20 it really is not a acurate rank.
Anonymous said
October 26, 2010 @ 9:48 pm
The rankings are a JOKE some people got dropped but yet did and had better numbers in events of others who got ranked and its sad cause i put in the past 5yrs working on getting ranked and it gets stripped away what a joke ifoce can suck my $$$$..Im done with them guess i will strart eating any contest i want..Rich and george need to take a good look around and do the rankings themselves …
One Better? said
October 27, 2010 @ 2:43 am
What does it matter that someone should be ranked 30 instead of 20 or 40 instead of 30? Whether you are 50 or 25 you are still a long way from top 10 which is not worth arguing about.
MLE should rank the top 10 and every other eater should be in an Also Considered grouping, perhaps listing top 3 placings in contests since date of last ranking.
That would put things in perspective for eaters, fans, and MLE.
Anonymous said
October 27, 2010 @ 2:30 pm
Remember when BB got on eatfeats case really hard for bad journalism when eatfeats posted a video stating Pat was retiring? Not to bring up the past because its just that the past but it seems Mr. BB has done some bad journalism himself, in his blog about “competitive eating rankings” he says tooward the end “newcomers like Andrew Kossuth and Matt Ogelthorpe will be ranked in the near future.” http://beautifulbrian.com/commentary.html pretty sure Matt Ogelthorpe will never be a ranked competitive eater, he lacks one major quality HES NOT A COMPETITIVE EATER! He is however competitve eatings #1 fan, so unless they are going to start ranking fans I think its far to say Mr. Ogelthorpe will not be in the rankings anytime soon. See BB everybody makes mistakes, so why not go a little easy on OJ next time something isn’t to par with what you want it to say? Now can we all just play nice?
Amommymous said
October 27, 2010 @ 3:43 pm
they should rank the top 100, that way almost everybody would feel special! They might have to include fans
Mega Munch said
October 27, 2010 @ 4:02 pm
I think it’s been said on here before, but if the CE community as a whole isn’t happy with the Shea’s shoddy ranking system (and it sounds like we’re not), we should create a ranking system of our own. Something based in hard numbers and analysis. Something the eaters (top ranked and otherwise) would agree is a fair and reputable system.
It won’t be hard to outdo the Shea’s ranking system, which I’m pretty sure involves telling an intern to throw some shit together over his lunch break.
Wrecking Ball said (Registered May 6, 2010)
October 27, 2010 @ 6:07 pm
@Mega Munch I am with you on that. I started an excel worksheet but it has some flaws. there isn’t complete recordings like cannolis, I know US Male won but what are the rest of the places? I am going to keep complete records from here on but I cant do anything about the past events.
anonymously annoyed said
October 27, 2010 @ 6:56 pm
Who is Damon Wells anyhow?
KevinRoss said
October 28, 2010 @ 4:22 am
Just saw on facebook that it would have been Pat Vandam’s birthday today. Happy birthday man!
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 28, 2010 @ 5:33 am
Hey Wreckn Ball, perhaps you could could contact those eaters via FB to ask for help in filling in the blanks? Or if u hv enuf of our emails???
Wrecking Ball said (Registered May 6, 2010)
October 28, 2010 @ 11:30 am
@Larell I have sent it out to everyone that has asked, right now David Solomn has it and he seems to really know what he is doing and plans on working on it over the next week and sending it back. I will be sure to email you and whoever else wants a copy once he is done!
Wrecking Ball said (Registered May 6, 2010)
October 28, 2010 @ 11:35 am
@anny 2:30 I did read where Beautiful Brian worte about Matthew being a competitive eater and I can affirm he is not. Matthew is a friend of mine who LOVES comptetitve eating but does not take part in contests, maybe beautiful Brian can learn people make mistakes and nobody wins when we jump all over them for it?
Larellmarie said (Registered May 9, 2010)
October 28, 2010 @ 1:04 pm
@Wrecking Ball – awesome, count me in to receive a copy!
Delores said
October 28, 2010 @ 1:59 pm
I have a idea.Rank only the top 10 and all the rest could be ranked tied for number 11.How does that sound?
stephanie_wu said (Registered August 17, 2010)
January 3, 2011 @ 4:18 pm
Anyone know where I can find a history of IFOCE rankings for the past decade?
A-Bomb said (Registered May 7, 2009)
January 3, 2011 @ 7:11 pm
Stephanie – Google cache?
stephanie_wu said (Registered August 17, 2010)
January 3, 2011 @ 7:47 pm
Thanks Andrew! The thing is I don’t believe Google keep things in their cache for that long, at least not publicly. Nothing shows up for the 2009 rankings, for example. It’s not a big deal; I guess I just wish MLE/IFOCE kept better records and made sure they were published, for posterity’s and integrity’s sake, like other sports leagues do
ojrifkin said (Registered July 27, 2005)
January 3, 2011 @ 8:47 pm
Try Archive.org for the IFOCE 2004-2008 rankings
A-Bomb said (Registered May 7, 2009)
January 3, 2011 @ 8:57 pm
Wow, that’s cool. Thanks OJ!
PSHHH said
January 4, 2011 @ 9:10 am
MLE/IFOCE/posterity/integrity
that just looks weird all in the same sentense.
anonymous said
January 4, 2011 @ 9:24 am
This had to be an all time low in Seiken career with stinky miernicki ranked 3 spots above him
http://web.archive.org/web/20071018034747/http://www.ifoce.com/rankings.php
stephanie_wu said (Registered August 17, 2010)
January 4, 2011 @ 9:29 am
I second that. Very impressive. Thanks OJ!
Crazy Legs Mom said (Registered February 16, 2006)
January 4, 2011 @ 11:50 am
Anonymous 9:24, take a time out, I am no doubt older than you. No need to continue or stir up silly trouble. Let’s let Seiken do what he promised and support that effort. Everyone can go here or there. In the end you get more bees with honey and even flies indoors without using a fly-swatter.
Rhonda Evans said
January 4, 2011 @ 12:33 pm
I’m breaking my resolution in posting this, but I’m coming to BB’s aid here. No one on this thread, most of all me, lives in a glass house.
It does not matter what BB did or said last year, last decade, last century, last millenium, or even last night. Today’s a new day. The future is now; the past is dust! That’s true even for you A-9:24.
BB I wish you all the best. It takes a big man to say and do what you’re doing. I applaud your efforts. Many can learn from your example.
Like CLM said, BB, rock ’em down south, King!