MyFoxPhoenix has a video of an interview with Colin Gardiner, who will attempt to win the Battle of the Bone finals for the fourth year in a row later today.
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KevinRoss said
August 21, 2011 @ 3:30 am
Just got back from Arizona. . .unfortunately this Colin dude is now the 4 time champ. Although I could have done better (had a choking on a bone mishap partway through) it was obvious I was clearly ahead of Colin (as was the 3rd place finisher). Everyone in the audience, and everyone not affiliated with the people giving out the prize, thought either me or 3rd place guy had won. To a person they were all saying WTF happened, how could they say Colin won when he was a plate or two behind. But somehow after doing the weighing, Colin wins again. Colin is definitely a good eater, but my stack of plates and 3rd place guy’s were visibly higher, yet they said we all went through the same amount of plates and used that as the starting weight. Unless I’m taking crazy pills, I think I got majorly screwed for an extremely valuable prize. So I’m more than a little bummed out right now.
Larell Marie Mele said
August 21, 2011 @ 7:50 am
Aaaaw, that’s awful, Kevin!!! Is there any video footage that shows you won? If there is, I’d try fighting the call; really got nothing to lose at this point – might as well try! 🙁
anonymous said
August 21, 2011 @ 10:47 am
Welll Kevin welcome to the world outside of MLE. It was your choice remember
Anonymous said
August 21, 2011 @ 12:41 pm
Oh yeah theres no screw ups in a mle event. roflol.
KevinRoss said
August 21, 2011 @ 2:18 pm
No way to prove anything via tape really Larell. . .though even if I could they’d never reverse the decision anyway at this point.
As far as the MLE thing, that is fairly irrelevant. It is not as though I had any hope of winning significant prizes there. And there is plenty of problems with weighing things and fairness/cheating in MLE. The only thing I’ll miss about MLE is the friends I’ve made and participating in certain cool contests. But this truck thing was not the reason I left MLE.
Anonymous said
August 21, 2011 @ 8:35 pm
what a sore loser, big puss.
anonymous said
August 21, 2011 @ 10:01 pm
As stated in the past MLE will never be the same with the void created by Kevin Ross
Ace of Spades said
August 22, 2011 @ 3:40 am
This contest is not kind to Californians. When I was there a few years back, they nearly booed one guy out of the building when they announced his hometown as Los Angeles. The audience and host practically celebrated when he lost. What kind of sportsmanship is that? You can’t really mock Kevin for his complaints. They would have pulled the same crap with Johnnie Excel or any other independent. Colin was the hometown hero, case closed. All the counting that matters takes place behind closed doors.
Larell Marie Mele said
August 22, 2011 @ 4:40 am
2 bad – at l
Larell Marie Mele said
August 22, 2011 @ 4:41 am
2 bad – at least u know for next year 🙁
Sue said
August 23, 2011 @ 12:06 am
Lawsuit!!!
colin Gardiner said
August 28, 2011 @ 4:03 am
Kevin you got beat. Im a S. California Boy born and raised. They did the weighing out in the open. You got beat. You will go done again at Battle of the Bone 5. You better start thinking of an excuse for another loss. See ya next year…..
D. Man said
August 29, 2011 @ 12:16 pm
I thought you were retiring Colin? Can’t stick to one story I guess.
KevinRoss said
August 29, 2011 @ 1:53 pm
No, the weighing was not out in the open. I wasn’t allowed to even count my own plates to verify the number I went through. They wouldn’t let anyone get near the scales or weighing area without shooing them away. It was weighed on stage, but far from “in the open”. It is certainly possible I got beat fair and square. It is possible your stack of plates wasn’t really lower, but just looked that way visually for some reason. If someone produced a clear video showing how many plates we were each handed, then this could be resolved one way or the other. I’m not even saying anybody did anything INTENTIONALLY. It just that something seemed to not add up mathematically. But anyway, I’m over it and there’s nothing I can do. I’m glad I tried at least. And I still got the season tickets, which is a consolation prize of some value. I could have certainly eaten better than I did and I did have a choking incident partway through, so some fault lies with myself for not performing to the peak of my ability. But at any rate, it was a learning experience and I look forward to trying again next year. I might bring a camera man with me though 🙂
J. Excel said
August 29, 2011 @ 2:58 pm
Next year, the Excellent One will be coming down to Phoenix!!
BigWillTheChamp said (Registered February 1, 2009)
August 29, 2011 @ 3:14 pm
To be fair Kevin, and I do appreciate your frustration, the fact that they’re weighing it takes the amount of plates out of the equation.
Perhaps they all didn’t have the same amount of wings. The biggest thing though is that no 2 plates are going to weigh the same.
If they weighed before and after and calculated the difference, I’m assuming that’s supposed to settle the discrepancy of who ate how many wings. I dunno, obviously I wasn’t there to see for myself and judge.
KevinRoss said
August 29, 2011 @ 3:29 pm
Will, of course plates make a difference. Additional plates were only given as each plate was finished. They calculated the starting weight based on plates each eater had at the end and subtracted the ending weight from that. Each starting plate was calculated as having the same weight, even though surely they were not exactly the same weight (though probably close). So if someone was counted for even one extra plate at the end, they would get counted as though they ate an entire plate of wings, bone and all!
For example, if two eaters had a pound of debris at end. . .let’s say that eater A had 4 pounds worth of starting weight via tray count, but eater B had 5 pounds worth of starting weight. Eater A would have 3lbs eaten and Eater B would have 4lbs eaten, which is roughly accurate. But suddenly if you said they both had same amount of starting trays, it would be a tie! So yeah, plate count is definitely in the equation.
I was saying on the battleofthebone site that the way to resolve this would just be to start each eater out with an enormous tray or at least have each plate be very big/heavy. So that each eater would end up having gone through 1-4 trays, which is easier to count and nobody would be unclear about their count. When you end up with like a stacks of 8-12 plates, it becomes confusing. One person gets an extra plate and the entire results change!
It is not impossible we had the same amount of plates, but it just looked different visually. They wouldn’t let anyone touch their plates to verify their count. . .so who knows on that. Not impossible I lost fair and square. But also possible something went haywire based on that plate count looked different and majority of audience seemed to agree with this. But anyway, it is what it is!
the great gavonne said
August 29, 2011 @ 3:35 pm
Will,I’ll be at The Habitat tomorrow if you want to talk.
Cutter said (Registered November 9, 2010)
August 29, 2011 @ 3:41 pm
Maybe Colin did have less plates as it visually appeared, he still could have ate more in weight of the wings. I didn’t think that any plate would have much more weight to begin with but it is also possible his plates had more meat to start with.
KevinRoss said
August 29, 2011 @ 4:58 pm
Cutter, not sure what you mean? If he really did have less plates, his starting weight should have been different. The judges showed me the starting and ending weights after the winners were declared. It said we all had 12 plates and that is what they used to determine the same starting weight for all of the top 3 people. They said we all had exactly 12 plates. Then they deducted the entirety of our debris from that. So if the plate count was wrong, that means Colin didn’t win for real. If the plate count was right, then he probably did. I feel like everyone keeps on saying how only the weight matters and it shows a lack of basic mathematical understanding. . .yes, the wings are weighed at end instead of counted. But you need to have an accurate starting weight for each person to subtract the ending weight from – otherwise the difference (i.e. meat eaten) is not accurate. Anyway, I really don’t want to keep rambling about the subject. I just hope that next time they can be convinced to have larger trays/plates to alleviate this as a concern.
KevinRoss said
August 29, 2011 @ 5:09 pm
I realized I might not have made something clear – I am saying that I agree it is possible for someone to win a chicken wing eating contest with less plates taken. If they clean the bone much better, of course the weight of meat eaten could be greater. But if the starting amount of plates is not accurate, the weight eaten from the starting amount would thus not be accurate either. That is all I have been trying to say. . .
Cheaters said
September 6, 2011 @ 5:49 pm
Kevin i was there you won !!!!! Can you say Scammers thats all this contest is . Just Went to battleofthebone5.com Omg its so true lol
colin Gardiner said
September 7, 2011 @ 8:35 pm
You all are cry babies… Don’t hate the Man beat the man. Quit making excuses why you didn’t win and step up your game. Can you say 5 time BOTB CHAMP!!! You know why? cause I can!!!! (:
Phil LaMignon said
September 7, 2011 @ 9:51 pm
Good job Colin!