New Poll: IFOCE top 5

October 30, 2007 at 11:55 am by ojrifkin · More posts about:Rankings, Site News

The new poll asks how you rank the top 5 IFOCE members from the United States.

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  1. Rhonda Evans said

    October 30, 2007 @ 12:24 pm

    Joey deserves to be # 1 by winning such a major event and for breaking Koby’s record in doing it. Pat has beaten Joey enough times to be a solid # 2 and he is squarely breathing down Joey’s neck. Humble Bob’s performance in Krystals was nothing short of spectacular. I cannot in my mind and heart of hearts put him in front of Tim or Sonya until he places in front of both of them in a higher percentage of contests.

  2. Romeo said

    October 30, 2007 @ 1:31 pm

    Another order is the best choice. the order should reflect corrent potential and not just be who is the best right now. Based on that the order should be Pat, Joey, Bob, Tim, and Juliet and Hall Hunt for fifth in a tie.

  3. WyattEarp said

    October 30, 2007 @ 4:00 pm

    Romeo, you’re an idiot. I don’t know what you mean by “corrent potenial.” Please elaborate.

  4. RussK said (Registered February 3, 2007)

    October 30, 2007 @ 4:06 pm

    Romeo,

    I don’t think you can rank on potential. Everybody has the potential to be great, but until they achieve such potential. Ranking should be weighted more oon who is doing the best right now.

  5. RussK said (Registered February 3, 2007)

    October 30, 2007 @ 4:08 pm

    Also, I am not saying that Juliet and Hall are bad, they both deserve high rankings, but not top 5, both have put up some very impresssive numbers this year, but others are also putting up some impressive numbers.

  6. Mega Munch said

    October 30, 2007 @ 4:36 pm

    Yeah, gauging “potential” is a tough one. I have to agree with Rhonda. There’s definitley some distance between the top three and the next ranked eaters. If were were grading eaters based on a 20 point scale, it might look like this:

    1. Joey (20)
    2. Pat (19.5)
    3. Koby (19) (though very difficult to accurately assess with his inactivity)
    4. Tim (16)
    5. Sonya (16)
    6. Bob (15.5)

  7. Yahoo Searcher said

    October 30, 2007 @ 4:54 pm

    Kathleen Robertson should be ahead of Sonya Lee

  8. square said

    October 30, 2007 @ 5:25 pm

    I don’t think you can rank CE potential either Russ, but if I had to I must agree w/ Rhonda…Bert has show vast improvement scince his start in CE, Joey ups the anty every time though. I think EaterX is the most improved from his 1st numbers as a rookie nonetheless. I bet he could do the 49 grilled cheeses now….pending they were “perfect” grilled cheeses….like Mom makes. O’letti could probably down more hair pies then Ron Jermey I think. There should be a angel-hair-pie eating comp. now that I ponder it!…

  9. SyKoBOZO said (Registered September 17, 2007)

    October 30, 2007 @ 6:57 pm

    sign me up for that contest please!

  10. Philly Guy said

    October 30, 2007 @ 8:33 pm

    The hair pie contest was in Philly this September. You missed it http://youtube.com/watch?v=vHKrtTP-Gt8.

  11. SyKoBOZO said (Registered September 17, 2007)

    October 31, 2007 @ 12:11 am

    it figures i missed it,or is that a bald joke?

  12. Mega Munch said

    October 31, 2007 @ 4:07 pm

    Yeah, it’s a bald joke SyKo.

  13. SyKoBOZO said (Registered September 17, 2007)

    October 31, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

    im bald Mega,waaaaaaaaa

  14. Anonymous said

    October 31, 2007 @ 11:07 pm

    What about the people who should appear on the top 50 or move up on the top 50?

    Nathan Biller (3rd place Jackson) Currently ranked only 47
    Rick Petralia (2nd place Chattanooga, 3rd place Knoxville) Currently not ranked
    Paul Egger (2nd place Knoxville) Currently not ranked
    Kevin Ross (3rd place Nashville) Currently ranked 36

    All these eaters could be up and comers in the IFOCE and defeated IFOCE eaters ranked HIGHER than them!

  15. Also said

    November 1, 2007 @ 8:27 am

    Don’t forget other rookies Anonymous:

    The InTimmidator (beat Brickhouse in Waffles & Pete Davekos in Krystals)

    USMale (Beat Brickhouse in Waffles)

  16. Carey said

    November 1, 2007 @ 9:42 am

    Moving the ranks around because of placement in a qualifier wouldn’t make sense. For example, not to single out anyone, but Kevin Ross did take 3rd place, but it was with only 30 Krystals. Rick placed with only 21 and 24 burgers. I wouldn’t agree that those totals are sufficient to suggest that the rankings should be changed.

  17. Mega Munch said

    November 1, 2007 @ 10:06 am

    Yeah, they’ll probably be on the new list when the IFOCE releases the new rankings next…summer?

  18. Rhonda Evans said

    November 1, 2007 @ 10:28 am

    Personally, I don’t think qualifying totals should count at all — period! Why should an eater stick needless calories in his body if he eats enough to win in a contest where he isn’t pushed? Also, if an eater is way behind in a qualifier and hasn’t a snownball’s chance of winning, same thing.

  19. Pat From Moonachie said (Registered December 10, 2005)

    November 1, 2007 @ 10:46 am

    I’m packing a parachute for MY drop!

  20. Rhonda Evans said

    November 1, 2007 @ 10:58 am

    My logic about rankings is this: Yes, they should be a snapshot of where an eater ranks among his peers at a given moment in time. But a person’s placement in the rankings that are predominantly determined by his placement order of finish in one contest does not reflect this. That snapshot is but from one angle, biased by one’s performance in the most recent major event. This is flawed. It would be different, if, say, Krystals (always 8 minutes) or Nathan’s (always 12 minutes) were the only contests in the IFOCE repetoire, but this is hardly the case.

    Like track and field (T & F), CE is comprised of many different kinds of food (T & F events) at numerous time limits (T & F distances). Therefore, in order to be a complete snapshot, rankings should be based more on a 6 month- or 1 year-moving average, reflecting eater finishes in contests involving many different food types and durations.

    This moving average, by its very mathematical and intuitive nature, inherently does give more weight to more recent events, while still capturing performances within a given time window. It’s the only fair, unbiased, legitimate way to rank performers. I’m certain the IFOCE is re-looking at this. I just know they must be, because they’re smart people.

  21. Eric Duclos said

    November 1, 2007 @ 11:00 am

    If you guys want to vote you can go to Hall’s website and vote for top 25 eaters. The field is getting so good now it is hard to pick who is ahead of who. There are just so many good eaters now. I think the top 25 will change a lot this time! My prediction is 7 people will break into the top 25 that are not there now.

  22. Eric Duclos said

    November 1, 2007 @ 11:07 am

    Pat from Moonachie, you are an incredible eater. I say that by looking at your track record and seeing how well you have done. Despite not too much recently I personally believe you are a top 15 eater without question even now. I know I will be voting for you as such.
    Rhonda, I think you are right on. It gets so hard to figure out who is better when most people don’t run into each other very often. Krystal’s and Nathan’s are the easy ways to vote simply for the reason that everyone can be compared directly in those contests. So these two contests make the easiest way to rank, not necassarily the most complete or correct. Who is your top 15 Rhonda?
    Same question for US Male, Mega, Pat, etc.

  23. Rhonda Evans said

    November 1, 2007 @ 12:00 pm

    Thanks Eric. If I were ranking eaters today, here would be my Top 15 (with power rankings in parentheses to help determine relative ranking strength):

    1. Joey Chestnut (100)
    2. Pat Bertoletti (98)
    3. Takeru Kobayashi (97) — due to injury
    4. Tim “Eater X” Janus (93)
    5. (Tie) Humble Bob (91)
    5. (Tie) Sonya Thomas (91)
    7. Chip Simpson (89)
    8. Rich LeFevre (88)
    9. Hall Hunt (86)
    10. Brad Sciullo (84)
    11. (Tie) Erik Denmark (82)
    11 (Tie) Juliet Lee (82)
    13. Crazy Legs Conti (81)
    14. (Tie) Tim Brown (80)
    14. (Tie) Allen Goldstein (80)

  24. Eric Duclos said

    November 1, 2007 @ 2:49 pm

    Sounds very reasonable. I am ranking mine based on Krystal/Nathan weighted heavily, but also taking into account personal bests and head-to-head match ups. I noticed some people who I think are very good in all different kinds of foods sometimes don’t do their best on the big day of the finals. Brown is a prime example. He can do very well and beat someone good like Crazy Legs easily in Blueberry Pie and Burritos, have very comparable personal bests in burgers and dogs, but then finish near the bottom of the barrel on the big day. Also you have someone like Monnachie who beats a lot of people in most all of the contests he goes to, but doesn’t go too often and has never even attempted a Krystal. It can be very hard to judge, but this is how I had it.:

    (1.)Chestnut (world record in Nathan’s and Krystal’s.)
    (2.)Kobayashi(barely edged out in Nathan’s w/ jaw injury, can beat anyone else in capacity and speed 99% of the time)
    (3.)Bertoletti (beats Joey on occasion with uncommen CE foods. Very solid 3rd in Nathan’s and Krystal’s (besides Bob?)
    (4.)Bob(does what it takes in Nathan’s. dominates in Krystals over everyone else. Beats most others ranked lower in all foods. Tim is nearly an equal in most every food.)
    (5.)Tim(Bob and Tim go back and forth from one contest to another. Bob wins the tie breaker since his win is most current AND significant (21Krystals))
    (6.)Sonya(constantly proves she can compete in all foods and is getting better with speed. bob has gone back and forth with contests too…again his BIG showing at Krystals did it for me. tim splits with her too, plus he has gotten her at nathan’s and krystal’s now.)
    (7.)Chip(busy with work now that he’s out of school. still manages to do very well when he shows up. Barely lost to Rich and Hall in this one contest, but has beaten many others above him recently in other foods.)
    (8.)Rich(beat chip by a small margin this once, but mostly cannot touch Chip. Very near Hall, but continues to edge Hall out by the slimest of margins)
    (9.)Hall(This year he has shot past everyone ranked lower than 8. clearly is very comfortable at capacity and favors those contests. He has been right with Rich this year, but has not quite overtaken him yet.)
    (10.)Juliet (has beaten most people currently ranked below 10th. unfortunate slip at krystals losing to crazy, erik, etc.
    (11.)Erik
    12.Moonachie
    13.Crazy Legs
    14.Tim Brown
    15.Arturo
    (I continued to 20)
    16.Allen
    17.Brad
    18.Wing Kong
    19.Brian Subich
    20.Russ Keeler
    21.Juris

    My hands need a rest. If you want more explinations on others, ask and I will be happy to explain.

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